Bob Emiliani has, perhaps unwisely, struck back at John Seddon after Seddon attacked him in his latest email missive.
See Emiliani's thoughtful takedown here:
Bob writes, in part:
John sees “Respect for People” as not relevant because “culture is a consequence of the system.” My research shows the reverse to be true, but no matter.
Nobody can rightly say that the “Respect for People” principle is not a point of intervention – either before my work or after. The future of Lean is bright as people begin to expand their comprehension of the ”Respect for People” principle and focus on both the system and the people. It looks like it is time for John to update his Vanguard Method, once he absorbs these six new seminal moments: