Friday, February 25, 2011

Brian Joiner's Book on John Seddon's Bookshelf - Time to Start Giving Credit to Him

As I've said before, John Seddon "nicked" the work of Brian Joiner, as it was Joiner and his "Fourth Generation Management" book that pioneered the idea that you first do "Check" as part of the PDCA cycle.

But Seddon claims HE invented the idea. He NEVER cites Joiner in his work.

The most recent video on their Systems Thinking Review site clearly shows Joiner's book the shelf above Seddon's right shoulder.

Time to start giving Joiner due credit, "Professor" Seddon.

John Seddon owns Brian Joiner's book

Thursday, February 17, 2011

Answering @TriBabbitt on #Lean People and #Deming

The primo American Sedonista Tripp Babbit ("a talented management speaker" as he calls himself) has been complaining in his Twitter feed and latest newsletter:

http://archive.constantcontact.com/fs089/1102324243879/archive/1104540434004.html
I have challenged the lean folks to attend as they are constantly quoting Deming on twitter for convenience, but when it comes to supporting the Deming community they are strangely absent.  Dr. Deming warned us about copying which is exactly what the lean tools approach does in service.  Worse, they are copying manufacturing, an industry with different problems.  This may be one reason they shy away from the Deming community.


Tripp, I've attending Deming Society events and, sadly, the group is a dying breed. The events have gone downhill and that is one reason this blogger won't be attending. I have talked to others who agree that, unfortunately, the ongoing events aren't doing Dr. Deming's legacy the best service.

So I say bullocks to your "challenge" - especially if going to the event means hanging out with the likes of yourself. Sorry. My loss, I suppose.

Tripp, you have copied John Seddon, his method and his manner - didn't you heed Deming's warning?

Wednesday, February 2, 2011

Seddon Again Just Insults People, Claims to the Sole "Systems Thinker"

Welcome back, Seddonistas. I know this blog only has about four readers who habitually come to this page.

John Seddon thinks he's so clever in his childish attacks on Jim Womack and others.

From the most recent Vanguard newsletter:
"But hold on, the chief tool-head in the US now claims that ‘lean is systems thinking’. Oh, that’s all right then!"
He's clearly referring to Jim Womack, of the LEI, but he doesn't have the courage to call him out by name.

Seddon has tried to misappropriate the term "systems thinking" for his own narrow purposes. Remember when Seddon said systems thinking is just another word for lean? We do.


There are tons of references online to many who refer to Lean as "systems thinking," including:
Anyway, go do a google search and you'll see only John Seddon claims that John Seddon is the only "systems thinker" in the Lean world.

John Seddon latched onto the term "systems thinking" just a few years ago. He's cheesed off a number of real systems thinking academics and practitioners, many of whom have emailed this blogger.
Anyway, this would all be more interesting if Seddon would try to engage in a dialogue instead of just shouting at the world.

My advice - go do good work. Fix the HMRC if you can. Fix hospitals. Why not focus on that instead of bitching incessantly about other people and trying to draw attention to yourself?